Herb Dean Defends His Askren/Lawler Stoppage | Joe Rogan

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  • Published: 10 April 2019
  • Taken from JRE MMA Show #61:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TiGMStO5G4

Comments • 3 978

  • Max Resdefault
    Max Resdefault  15 hours back

    He clearly wasn't out judging by how quickly he got up after he was released, but the question is.. was he getting out of that choke? I'm not too sure..

    • thrasher X
      thrasher X  17 hours back

      Herb Dean is the best. He can do no wrong in my book.

      • mixingrecords
        mixingrecords  1 days back

        INTERESTING. Herb can hear the announcers as he is trying to call the fight.

        • Jamie Zurek
          Jamie Zurek  2 days back

          You’d think the easiest way to sort all this out would b with a rematch but Askrens already said he’d not run it bk??

          • Chandler Kirkland
            Chandler Kirkland  3 days back

            Herb Dean always makes the right call. He knows fighting and knows when a fighter can’t fight back. Great ref.

            • Devyn Pipho
              Devyn Pipho  5 days back

              My only thing with the choke was when herb went for robbies arm to test it if he was out robbie didnt let his hand drop so thats the only reason i thought it was a bad stop

              • SlayerPayback
                SlayerPayback  5 days back

                Robbie was grabbing Ben's head/ hair.. and LET GO so his hand obviously fucking dropped, Herb then did his usual fuck up and didn't even bother to look at Robbie's CONSTANT MOVING ARM... That's a pretty big fuck up

                • SmithN' Wesson
                  SmithN' Wesson  5 days back

                  Herb and Big John are the greatest

                  • redneckhippiefreak
                    redneckhippiefreak  6 days back

                    Twister will break your back, it broke mine..XP

                    • The Notorious YouTube
                      The Notorious YouTube  6 days back

                      Does that and then screw of Aspen

                      • Ian McDonald
                        Ian McDonald  6 days back

                        Herb dean might need to think about retirement. He's becoming the king of early stoppages.

                        • UrMomGay NoU
                          UrMomGay NoU  6 days back

                          That’s cool, show it in your thumbnail and then talk for 15 minutes about and never Fkin show it 👍

                          • Jaco H
                            Jaco H  7 days back

                            Good stoppage. Period, arm went limp, everybody can see that and that is the moment the ref jumps in. You can't do slow mow after fight and decide the guy was okay after arm went limp...

                            • elegant otter
                              elegant otter  1 weeks back

                              All i'm saying is I hated seeing this dude on the UFC games for this exact reason.

                              • Jason Sooner058 Bolding

                                Herb Dean is the man. He did the best he could in a difficult situation. I would love to see Robbie and Ben run it back though.

                                • Robert Miller
                                  Robert Miller  1 weeks back

                                  I just watched it again just know and man he wasn't out

                                  • D Dusi
                                    D Dusi  1 weeks back

                                    Looking at the footage again, it appears that Lawler may have passed out and then regained consciousness upon the stoppage and release. To be honest, whether conscious or not, Herb made the right call.

                                    • ummm...
                                      ummm...  1 weeks back

                                      He went limp. Plain and simple. Robbie, IF he somehow managed to not go out, was not defending, was in worse position. Right call

                                      • J Castaneda
                                        J Castaneda  1 weeks back

                                        Terrible stoppage from herb dean.
                                        Just glad Ben askren got KO'd by masvidal.

                                        • Stupidshit 3000
                                          Stupidshit 3000  1 weeks back

                                          I did a similar bulldog choke on my brother. Only it was more from the front and side because he had me on my back standing over me. I couldn't break his neck but it stopped him from punching the crap out of me. He got up and said "submissions are for pussys". #zekesucks

                                          • Mike Mike
                                            Mike Mike  1 weeks back

                                            His arm looked limp when i watched it live at first
                                            This stoppage sucks for the fans, but huge respect to herb

                                            • John S
                                              John S  1 weeks back

                                              He doesnt need to defend the decision. He made the right call at the time to protect the fighter end of.

                                              • G MinK
                                                G MinK  1 weeks back

                                                A ref might be influenced by a commentator yelling, "HE'S OUT! HE'S OUT!" from across the cage.

                                                • ULI SURATOS
                                                  ULI SURATOS  1 weeks back

                                                  Herb wasn't in the best position to see under Askren and check if Robby had a thumbs up.

                                                  • Jesus Ballesteros
                                                    Jesus Ballesteros  1 weeks back

                                                    5:43 Scott Epstin from never back down 2?!

                                                    • Eric Solveson
                                                      Eric Solveson  1 weeks back

                                                      Robbie's from my high school. He was a Bettendorf BULLDOG (choke)

                                                      • Benana Juuice
                                                        Benana Juuice  1 weeks back

                                                        Why does a limp arm indicate they’re good to keep fighting.

                                                        • Ben Haven
                                                          Ben Haven  1 weeks back

                                                          I'd have to say between Big John and Herb... you have the two best ref's in the game. i wouldn't question either of these men. they have a tough job for sure.

                                                          • Hero X
                                                            Hero X  1 weeks back

                                                            first time hearing herb dean voice.

                                                            • Micheal Solo
                                                              Micheal Solo  1 weeks back

                                                              Wow. Love this guy. His words are extremely logical and filled with honest intentions. His humanity shines through.

                                                              • marksmanaz
                                                                marksmanaz  1 weeks back

                                                                Much respect for a stand up guy

                                                                • Ben Brokaw
                                                                  Ben Brokaw  2 weeks back

                                                                  RESPECT

                                                                  • J.sebastian lopez
                                                                    J.sebastian lopez  2 weeks back

                                                                    He is a excelent ref and deserve respect!! His job is take care about the fighters

                                                                    • Johnathan Andrus
                                                                      Johnathan Andrus  2 weeks back

                                                                      And all these fans that have no idea how easy it is to get out of a bullshitdog choke. I mean for real. Every ref wants to cover up their bad calls by "oh we have to protect the fighters" well then don't let them fight in the first place, but if dudes are gonna fight let them fight. Get out of here with that Jay Nady excuse.

                                                                      • Johnathan Andrus
                                                                        Johnathan Andrus  2 weeks back

                                                                        The fact that Rogan and or Dean would think for a second that lawler would get choked out by a scrub bulldog choke is a major choke on their part. Give lawler some freakinn credit and respect for how skilled he has become over his long career. No way in hell he gets put out by a school yard bully choke. Seriously.

                                                                        • Me Moi
                                                                          Me Moi  2 weeks back

                                                                          There was no getting out of that choke hold.

                                                                          • jacebeefer
                                                                            jacebeefer  2 weeks back

                                                                            Joe needs to do a weekly Herb Dean interview.

                                                                            • Nazim Mahmudov
                                                                              Nazim Mahmudov  2 weeks back

                                                                              herb is a man...

                                                                              • Gamer George
                                                                                Gamer George  2 weeks back

                                                                                At the end of the day. Keep your arms stiff, be very vocal with the ref. You go limp, you're done. He went limp so he'd ease up but it backfired. Herb is an A class ref. Best in this buisiness. Better than Big John McCarthy. The best.

                                                                                • Kieran V
                                                                                  Kieran V  2 weeks back

                                                                                  Askren got robbed on Saturday
                                                                                  Madvidal tapped!

                                                                                  • Jragon Uchiha
                                                                                    Jragon Uchiha  2 weeks back

                                                                                    What happened with Khabib n mcgregor ??

                                                                                    • Achyll 1985
                                                                                      Achyll 1985  2 weeks back

                                                                                      Whether Lawler was out or not, none of us know, you can say his arm was limp, you can say whatever, none of us know but him. The fact that after a bit of in the moment anger he was upset, he then told Herb Dean that he understood why he stopped it and it's all good, shows that Robbie respects Herb in that position and if he felt he was in danger, he made the right call. Period.

                                                                                      • Jesse Cab
                                                                                        Jesse Cab  2 weeks back

                                                                                        Why wasn’t the fight stopped after Askren was dropped on his head???? Askren was clearly getting destroyed

                                                                                        • Kye Rafferty
                                                                                          Kye Rafferty  2 weeks back

                                                                                          I can't see how that was a bad call. For once, GOOD CALL HERB DEAN!

                                                                                          • Gojira Tool
                                                                                            Gojira Tool  2 weeks back

                                                                                            Herb dean is an awesome man

                                                                                            • Mike Harrison
                                                                                              Mike Harrison  2 weeks back

                                                                                              Herb Dean is amazing

                                                                                              • 420Foly
                                                                                                420Foly  2 weeks back

                                                                                                Herb "bring his own pics" Dean

                                                                                                • Korey Stankiewicz
                                                                                                  Korey Stankiewicz  2 weeks back

                                                                                                  You know I was on the fence for Askren but he just solidified my thoughts. Good call.